Introduce yourselves

[etch]

Hi, this is the 1st thread I've created for this site. Why don't you guys introduce yourselves and share some of your own experiences with music production.

I'd be interested in hearing your favourite artists and tunes over the years.

It would also be cool to hear what you think of the way trance has changed over the years, is it better? worse? more commercialised?

[tsilal]

Hi to ALL,

I decided to write something here, to tell my opinion about music production....

I am trying 15 years to find out the best way to produce Trance music. When everyone say with software plugins and a sequencer you can make great music with great sound.. I can tell you after my experience and I have plenty of it, with no hardware equipment and a very good room there is no future for a Trance producer. It is all about money, labels do not accept good sound, they want the best sound and with soft plugins and no budget you can't give them what they want.. So, is there any meaning to make music just for you and for your friends so many years because when you produce, you spend tons of hours and days and years, we are talking here about LIFE (my life, your life, his life...)
Can anyone answer this??

I do not want to believe that I through my life for nothing. Future producers must understand that If you don't have the money, do not start produce anything.. Life is better if you know that from the beginning, because if you start, music production becomes a part of your life and then your life, you can't stop, it is like a Hard Drug and when you understand it is all about money, you get disappointed with production, but for you production is your life, so you get disappointed about your life..! This is not good.

My opinion is that when you don't have really good sound you can't produce really good music. I believe everything starts here! You can't make something in e.g Reason even in Logic and wait after a mastering to become an elephant.. You must make the best MIX of your tracks, have a very good room otherwise how to put correct the sounds? then some good compressors and Reverbs.

The meaning is not to experiment all the time in a room with bad sound treatment and soft plugins... End of story.

Lets talk about Trance music.
I can talk months about it but in a few words these days Trance music of course is getting better and better and the only reason is the Quality of the Sound which was not so good 10 years ago.
The best period was from 2003-2005. The best Trance ever! No one produce songs like that period, even the artists who made these songs they produce other styles.. Just look for Gouryella or Airwave what they used to make and what are they making now....

I hope not to disturb anyone, this is my opinion and that's all. The worst of all is that no one told me to quit when I should and they keep telling me make make make music. I should read my reply 15 years ago!!! ) That's life, so Unpredictable.

[etch]

Hi,

Thanks for sharing your opinion. The thing is, if you have produced a lot of music in the past 15 years, you shouldn't see it as a waste of time. You have learnt a lot, I'm sure you were happy with your results when you finished your projects and other people must have told you how great your work was. That is not a waste.

There will always be 2 sides to the argument "hardware or software" and there are artists out there using plugins who do a great job. One of my favorites is Sander van Doorn and he has produced some amazing tracks, even recently under 'Purple Haze'. He uses logic plugins for his work and they sound great. What matters to me is how the music makes me feel, and if in a club people are banging to it on the floor, it doesn't matter where it came from. I do understand that there is a special and natural sound to using hardware, but that doesn't make the sound from software no good, just different.

I personally think trance was at its peak a decade ago, 1999 and the next couple of years were when the magic was happening. If you listen to trance now and compare it to the past, the sound quality is so much better now, yet the essence of trance, the melodies and the journey the music took you on back then was trancendentally magical. But once again this is my opinion, we all have our own.

Have you got any of your work on youtube, soundcloud or elsewhere to share?

Keep smiling dude, life is not dissappointing no matter how it turns out, it is all part of the journey and I'm a believer that "it is all happening perfectly". One day I hope you'll see that.

Etch!

[tsilal]

Hi,

I'm so happy for having an answer. I must agree with you that was not a total waste of time, but I can not use anything of what I learn these years to anything now... This is what I mean waste.

I didn't mention 1999 because then the quality was at the start, Magic yes, the start of a new period after juno reactor ) .. but in 2003 Trance was for body and mind!! The trip was more interesting..

I used to have many of my songs in the internet for years but last year I erased all, maybe wrong but I did.. Now I think I must share one song with you to understand me.

What I have in mind is analog but I have to create digital. My problem is, after all these years, when I sit in frond of my monitors I can hear when the quality is good or bad without comparison with anything.. How can I make music now?? Imagine my feelings when I do the job!

Here is the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/393980176/R ... f.zip.html

This is 1 out of 700 songs.... Should I keep making music.... what will be the difference when I make 750 ??

Take care

[etch]

I hear what you're saying dude. I will download and have a listen to this track and let you know what I think of it. Etch!

[etch]

Hey man,

I had a listen and it's cool. I can hear that you're trying to take the listener on a journey. The thing for me is that the journey is not just about the quality of the sounds, it is about how the sounds layer, about the melody, the lack of sound and many more factors. Therefore I still think you can make magical tracks without hardware. Other artists do, and on the dance floor the tracks do what they're supposed to do, give the dancers a trip.

I really hope you carry on with producing. You need to find inspiration from somewhere as if your heart's not in it, there isn't any purpose in carrying on.

On a side note, have you ever tried to use the TI? Awesome sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUif508d-gM

That vid nearly makes me cry every time.